The Sea Peoples Came From Atlantis! November 2017 Of course, this is wrong. My search for Atlantis has all been with the mind's eye, which is very cheap versus the financial requirements in seeking Atlantis with physical eyes and for the palpable proof of a materialistic nature. This is too late … Yes? NO. March 2014 Several big questions following from von Christ's hypothesis are: It took me three years to read through all the literature about Platonic Myths *and* to make up my own mind on this topic. Logically, would you not have to know yourself to tell another that he does not know? The earliest book devoted to the Sea Peoples, that I am aware of, was Immanuel Velikovsky’s Peoples of the Sea[758]. NO. Historical-critical. You have not point, sorry. Historical-critical. Habsburgs Sea Peoples Published June 11, 2010 The Sea Peoples is the name given by modern scholarship to a group of allies who caused havoc among the nations of the Eastern Mediterranean including Egypt which they invaded at least twice in the 2nd millennium BC. February 2016 Some parts of this theory have been published already, yet not its core. You cannot interpret a story without allusions to Atlantis as a story alluding to Atlantis. Sea peoples were 1200 BC give or take 50 years either side and their origins are all guesswork. A different view was expressed by the Egyptologist Robert Anderson who commented “It would seem that, rather than bands of plunderers, the Sea People were probably part of a great migration of displaced people. October 2020 I hate to tell you this but you are not a source of ultimate truth... It's quite common ( especially to save production costs ) to put the "experts" in front of a green screen or in a small set in a rented studio with a second unit crew to shoot those segments. How much time and money have you spent on physically or mentally, trying to find what Plato is all about and verifying all your hundred of thousands of words you have used in confuting others? Your comment will be posted after it is approved. //In a separate paper he suggests that “the chaos and destructions wrought by the Sea Peoples may have created a power vacuum which allowed the Israelites to take over the land of  Canaan.” <. Forer belief is equal to yours - a belief based on well just belief. Spanuth suggested Frisians, Saxons, and Danes. Historical-critical. The Trs.w were Sea People allies, who sailed from the defeat and final destruction of Atlantis back to Italy, where they rose to power as the Etruscans. He shows us once more that most ancients did not perceive the Atlantis story as an invention. Sea peoples were 1200 BC give or take 50 years either side and their origins are all guesswork. Of course, Tertullian's opinion does count. For me personally, until I published all parts of my thesis, it is not an open question. NO. But the real timing becomes obvious when the Bronze Age came to an end at the same time when the rains stopped in Egypt: 1400-1200 BC. He was convinced that Murias one of the legendary cities of the de Danann had been located in Bimini. This is not an academic approach, you are following, this is a kindergarten approach. I have now published my new book, Joining The Dots, which offers a fresh look at the Atlantis mystery. Also related to the carvings at Medinet Habu is an interesting study of the Sea Peoples’ ships depicted there, by the nautical archaeologist Professor Shelley Wachsmann(aj), who also offers evidence that at least some Mycenaeans were involved with the Sea Peoples(ak). And what is about the fabulous animals he is talking about? You: "And please do not confuse an eikos mythos with "myth". Historical-critical. That's like requiring complete artistic control for a middle school play. However with no Atlantis the fringe magical thinking people would have just fixated on something else. The result is a global flood that obliterates much of humankind. This spiral motif can be found etched … July 2012 Wilhelm von Christ (1831-1906) was a Classical scholar from the Duchy of Nassau, later part of the Kingdom of Prussia and the German Empire. In a 2006 paper(ac), The Ethnicity of the Sea Peoples, Woudhuizen included some groups from the Central Mediterranean as part of the Sea Peoples. But this is utter nonsense. Ancient Aliens Oh, you are so totally a True Believer, aren't you... @V: Providing physical proof of Atlantis is all about providing proof for the existence of the soul and the reincarnation it goes through. Yet this says nothing about the reality status of Atlantis. Atlantis is a great story? The Sea Peoples are a purported seafaring confederation that attacked ancient Egypt and other regions of the East Mediterranean prior to and during the Late Bronze Age collapse (1200–900 BCE). This is the key point in understanding it as a story. I don't know your family situation--are you a single dad? "Story" of course is the Ancient Greek meaning of μῦθος . The probable coastline of the mythical land Atlantis: Depending on the age of the sea levels — preceding the historical people of Atlantis, the Minoans, by some 5 millennia. He's a philosopher, he's a historian, he's a dessert topping, he's a floor wax! March 2015 How about 'No Atlantis'? Because Plato explicitly writes that the story is not a mythos. And any claim on Atlantis being real, and as given by Plato in all its details, is what the world wants before "knowledgeable" skeptics like Jason and many of you here will stop your own jabbering. February 2019 Historical-critical. The prominent part played by the Berbers in varying alliances that constituted the Sea Peoples is highlighted. Somebody who asks questions and explicitly says that there are no answers to them, cannot be a "believer", or? April 2010 There is an extensive bibliography of books and papers relating to the ‘Philistines and other Sea Peoples’ available online (last updated 16.09.19)(ap).>In addition there is a comprehensive compilation of all primary sources of references to the Sea Peoples and its constituent members also available(ar).<, (a) https://www.beepworld.de/members62/rwk_atlantis/, (b)  https://web.archive.org/web/20130718184625/http:/forums.atlantisrising.com:80/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000855.html, (c) https://web.archive.org/web/20200705114204/http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/headgear.htm, (d) https://web.archive.org/web/20181014190855/https://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/seapeople.htm, (e) https://web.archive.org/web/20080820154251/https://forums.atlantisrising.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000911.html, (f) https://www.artsales.com/ARTistory/Ancient_Ships/17_sea_peoples.html, (g) https://archive.aramcoworld.com/issue/199503/who.were.the.sea.people.htm, (h) https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsMiddEast/AnatoliaSeaPeoples.htm, (j) https://www.artsales.com/ARTistory/Ancient_Ships/17_sea_peoples.html, (l) https://web.archive.org/web/20200701073849/http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/index.htm, (m) https://web.archive.org/web/20060903164435/http:/dscholarship.lib.fsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1199&context=undergrad, (n) https://web.archive.org/web/20200403114043/http://www.museodeidolmen.it/englishdefault.html, (o) https://web.archive.org/web/20200125223822/http://www.museodeidolmen.it/englishpopomare.html, (p) Abhandlungen der bayerischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, Vol. New York City is only a couple of hours from me, and it's a major media hub. As a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, this site may earn from qualifying purchases. But I feel that you thrill yourself by believing to be some kind of champion of facts. It is fair to call the Megalith-buildres the descendants and Heirs to the Atlanteans.--DD]Erick Wright, a regular contributor to Atlantis Rising forums, has now concluded(b) that Atlantis was located in modern southern Turkey and that Atlanteans were among the Sea Peoples who attacked Egypt in 1200 BC. Muck suggested the Atlanteans). And Plato's dialogues are full of real and true stories, although the dialogues are mostly (if not all) invented. The author of the article appears to have followed the ideas of Edward Pococke published in his India in Greece[1231]. It is a pity. August 2018 He made this suggestion in 1886, in an omnibus article on “. Opening up the possibility of a real Atlantis is one thing. April 2016 NO. The Sea Peoples’  exact origin continues to be a matter of intense speculation(ad). May 2014 The “Sea Peoples” have long been suspected of playing a key role in ending the prosperous Bronze Age in the eastern Mediterranean, and plunging many societies into prolonged dark periods. Frank Joseph contends that the conflict between the Egyptians and the Sea Peoples was part of the Trojan War[108.11] and has identified the Meshwesh, one of the Sea Peoples, as Atlantean[1535]. for updates on my latest projects, blog posts, and activities. On one side those idiots who say it's true and yet provide no substantial material proof, nor logical justification, in the absence of the proof, to those other idiots on the other side who are materialistic in nature, and want their 5 senses thrilled with tangible proof. First, a close reading of Plato's Atlantis dialogues would have brought you to mind that the Atlantis tradition is not "a story about a story about a story". January 2020 Opinions is all that either side can claim. Horror September 2018 August 2014 August 2013 LOL I don't do that. Pyramids Yes? It had three harbors and was swallowed up by the sea and vanished. Jason, I think you made a mistake. June 2011 Every production is different. Prior to the development of these Bronze Age seafarers there was a history of Northern Boat-peoples who gradually expanded globally after the last Ice Age. @D: The most radical suggestion regarding the Sea Peoples has come from Jim Allen who has drawn attention to the similarity of their headgear with that of Amazonian ‘Indians’(c). Eventually the Philistines would join them as one of the Tribes of Israel who are then renamed, the Tribe of Benjamin. May 2010 Historical-critical. YOU take Julius Caesar's writings literally?! But as you correctly imply the onus is on you to provide an answer. NO. Odd isn't it? September 2019 (x) Is the historical core big enough to call Atlantis real? You have that nice Greek influenced architecture down at the Buffalo World's Fair site. Historical-critical. Have fun in your discourses and discordance, and do not pretend to be better than others with your mental abilities. Since every fringe show for the last 40 years is a rehash of the original In Search Of it will be interesting to see them simply repeat all the same stories that were in the original series just like Ancient Aliens does. Whether the Phaedrus dialogue actually took place? Historical-critical. And therefore, the 9000 years of Plato's Atlantis could fall into the same category: Not an invention, but a mistake, common at that time. Historical-critical. Sea people. The confusion surrounding the Sea Peoples is exemplified by the response to a question on the quora.com website(af). In other words you believe something and it must be true. The Greeks, Egyptians, and other cultures around the Mediterranean Sea used sailing ships to conduct trade, and sails wouldn’t be used in Northern Europe until the Iron Age, during the seventh or eighth century CE.”. the Sea People who came from the western Mediterranean rather than a sunken continent, Apr 13, 2019 - Explore ty lyons's board "Sea people" on Pinterest. The capital city of Atlantis (home of the North Sea people) lay on an island, in the estuary of great rivers. I rather suspect that this "auteur" producer/director was afraid he/she could neither control what you said nor edit your commentary to suit his premise. 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